°°° Abstract: Here 
            is the first synthetic message (another will follow) of our discussions 
            and topics discussed as well as some suggestions of orientation of 
            the discussion.
            We will analyze in this message the following topics discussed: democratic 
            governance notion; States-Nations and globalization; Europe and world; 
            European Constitution.°°°
          1) democratic governance
          
            The concept of governance doesn't 
              please some, especially it seems that it is the subject of different 
              interpretations and that its definition is not clear.
            My interpretation (in Italian, 
              my mother tongue, the word doesn't exist) is the following: action 
              to manage, to direct, to orient, to solve a problem in its complexity 
              through a multiplicity of contributions, autonomous but consistent, 
              done by a plurality of actors that pursues their interests and assume 
              their responsibilities in a setting of active subsidiarity.
            I believe that we should come back 
              on the concept of governance and on the one of subsidiarity to verify 
              if, out of it, we could not get some suggestions for the articulation 
              of the levels of power (Townships, Regions, States, Europe) that 
              is to say for the forms and levels of participation of the citizens 
              and the organized civil society.
          
          2) states-nations and globalization
           
            It doesn't make any doubt that 
              the globalization of the economy (external factor) reduce the power 
              of the States. Therefore, their role of mediation of the conflict 
              interest between citizens and redistribution of wealth produced, 
              becomes always less important. Precisely someone has mentioned that 
              it doesn't allow us to be considered that the political powers and 
              the roles of the States are or will disappear. What was not the 
              subject of an analysis, it is the possibility of recuperation of 
              power of the political action against the globalized economy through 
              the construction of a continental level government.
            The other element of reduction 
              of the power of the States (internal factor) is the tendency to 
              the transfer of power to the lower administrative level (Townships, 
              Province/Departments, Regions) in the form of federalization of 
              the state. This tendency can produce a growth of the democracy, 
              if one remains in a diagram of cooperative and socially responsible 
              subsidiarity.
              This tendency did create the idea, among political intellectuals 
              experts, of an Europe of the Regions that frightens the States - 
              nations stronger and centralized.
            The hypothesis of an European Federation, 
              composed of federal national states, without a single model, enabling 
              a circulation of the powers at several levels, based on the active 
              subsidiarity principle, could be discussed.
          
          3) Europe and the World
           
            Someone has recalled to us that 
              we cannot debate on the Europe that we want without taking into 
              account some that Europe is part of the world and that it would 
              be, of all ways, determined by the evolution of the world tendencies. 
              It could be interested therefore to orient them, and especially 
              to give its contribution to the completion of the necessary (and 
              even urgent) world governance.
          
          4) European Constitution
           
            This topic was often present but 
              in an indirect way. One realizes that each among us thinks about 
              the different aspects of a Constitution (legal aspects, founding 
              principles, rights and duties of the citizens, definition of the 
              roles and the powers of the different levels of governance, etc.).
            In an apparently contradictory 
              way, one affirms that these are not the peoples that write the constitutions 
              (which is true) but, at the same time, one expresses a requirement 
              for popular participation, of the aware citizens, of the social 
              actors; to define what kind of Europe we want.
              Personally, I think that if the objective of writing a Constitution 
              was registered in the European political agenda, civil society, 
              the organization of citizens could launch a broad discussion more 
              easily on ** the Europe that we want**, therefore the need of a 
              citizens participation to the definition of the main elements to 
              register in the Constitution.
            In a second and last message, I 
              will present the other topics that were considered in our discussions.
          
          
          °°° Abstract: It is 
            the second and last message of summary of our discussions.
            We will analyze in this message the following topics considered: European 
            charter of the fundamental rights; national rights and European right; 
            European public opinion; passion, imaginary European, motivating project.°°°
          1) European charter of the fundamental rights
           
            The majority of the intervening 
              people on this topic denounces especially its insufficiency for 
              the social rights. The return of the social rights to the national 
              legislations produced two shortcomings: a subsidiarity without cooperation 
              and solidarity on the one hand and the risk to draw the national 
              right downwards on the other hand in some country members.
            It is a retraction to send back 
              in the time the definition of the European Constitution.
              The methodology followed for its definition is contested: the actors 
              of the civil society were not challenged; an action of legal lobby 
              is not enough, it is necessary to associate to it a political fight 
              about a setting of rules of social order, on the promotion of public 
              policies.
          
          2) National rights and European right
           
            The legal work of constitutional 
              order must affirm and must clarify the rights whose union European 
              asks for the respect in every country and the specific European 
              rights that complete and support the national rights. An intervening 
              party's affirmation, that one can shared completely, puts indirectly 
              in evidence the problem of the unity of the rights for all European 
              citizens, while protecting the diversity of the rights of the countries 
              members, as long as they are consistent with the European right.
            As we already told it about the 
              Charter of the fundamental rights, the problem is not only a legal 
              alchemy question but essentially a political alchemy question. Once 
              again, non must wonder what can be the participation and the pressure 
              of the civil society.
          
          3) European public opinion
           
            The absence of an European public 
              opinion is surely the most important element of the weakness of 
              the European political project. It cannot be built by decree and 
              it needs time.
            Who have interest and feels enough 
              responsible to work on its construction?
              The political parties, the unions, the medias, the universities, 
              the civil society must be in general active actors.
              What can be and must be the role of the active citizens to stimulate 
              the other actors towards this direction?
              It is one of the questions on which we should think and come to 
              indicate a precise strategies (possible Alliance between organizations 
              and social movements, networks of radios, of newspapers, setup of 
              campaigns on events such as on the "the mad cow", etc.).
          
          4) Passion, European imaginary, rallying project
           
            The conducted unification process 
              slowly leads, drawed by the economic, the Single market, the currency 
              debate do not entailed, among the European citizens, a passion for 
              this project, neither a collective European imaginary.
            Could the discussion on the European 
              Constitution be the release of passion and could it constitute a 
              rallying project? On this question, the people who intervening are 
              very devided between them on the "no", the "yes" 
              and the doubts, but there is a wide consensus on the need for a 
              rallying project.